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The time period “herd immunity” has been arising a lot in the dialogue of how to greatest decelerate the unfold of COVID-19. Some politicians appeared to be contemplating the idea. What do health specialists assume? And what is going to the human value be?
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  1. Joeseph King

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    This isn't exactly true about small pox… My aunt had chicken pox as a kod and contracted small pox while taking care of her autistic grand son with chicken pox

  2. F V

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Covid19 is too deadly for herd immunity.

  3. Amazing Supergirl

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    My god she just said the same sentence in different ways throughout this entire video

  4. Jarid Gaming

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    I love how YouTube deletes all my comments. I just love my First Amendment Right being taken away.

  5. Matthew Thomas

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Herd immunity is only one slice of the pie….Journalist's…your lenses are the problem.

  6. B. Ruth Deerfield

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    For Herd Immunity to work:
    1) First you have to prove that catching the Coronavirus and recovering from it makes you immune which still hasn’t been proven and if it happens, it could take years before you develop enough antibodies (if ever) to make you immune
    2) Coronavirus has to be a virus that you won’t get be able to get infected a second and third time if you are re-exposed to the virus as in the situation with gonorrhea which you can catch over and over again and never become immune to it
    3) You have to have some idea of how many people in the population have had the infection in the past which is next to impossible since only 2% of our population has been tested
    4) Then you have to develop a successful vaccine for all the people who haven’t been infected, determine how long the immunity lasts, if you can catch the virus from the vaccine as in the case of an inactivated viral vaccine, whether you need boosters to the vaccine and how long the boosters last before you need another booster, etc.
    5) Then you have to have the cooperation of all the parties involved to eradicate the disease as in the example smallpox because in the case of the measles, parents unwilling to get their children vaccinated defeat the purpose of developing herd immunity and create a large reservoir of the virus for people to get infected from and thus, killing many unvaccinated children and adults whose immunity has worn off because they didn’t get re-vaccinated
    6) You have to determine that the long-term complications of getting infected are worth risking the uninfected population from catching the infection, which in the example of HIV infection, the risks outweigh the benefits because the long-term complications are getting other infections such as Toxoplasmosis, Mycobacterium, Pneumocystis Carinni, Kaposi’s sarcoma, Hepatitis B an C, etc.
    7) There has to be a possibility of ever developing a vaccine for Coronavirus at all since we have been trying to develop a vaccine for HIV for the past40 years but the virus mutates too quickly, a similar problem we have seen in developing a stable influenza vaccine which can only “guess the strains ” from the previous year’s virus

  7. DasEichenlaub

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    The right wing reaction to all this house arrest lunacy is and will continue to be delicious for years to come

  8. Rebel Rob

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    YouTube suppressing and deleting the positives of herd immunity.

  9. Anunnaki Menagerie

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Be patient or be a patient

  10. Mads Madsoleh

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    The Swedes are really showing their inner viking here ? only the strong survive! ⚔️

  11. Yasin Tokat

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    The viruses have a chance to mutate every time they leave the body of a host with slight fresh genetic updates. So by mathematics, more the virus is spread, more there is a chance for it to mutate in different variations. The biggest issue is, then, the herd immunity expectation can go very wrong, if the virus has more tricks to show. In fact, new deadly cases in the infant and young children might prove that there is too much underestimate going on. So be cautious!

  12. Phil Drewett

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    There is not a single shred of evidence that infection with Covid 19 leads to immunity. Most people develop antibodies but it hasn't been proven that this will provide immunity. Some recover without developing any detectable levels of antibody. Are they immune? What about people who are infected and asymptomatic do they develop antibodies? Also what about thos who are infected, suffer disease and recover? Many of them will suffer from new long term chronic disease as a result of the disease not to mention large numbers emotionally scarred with implications for mental health. Some strains of coronavirus cause the common cold and reinfect us multiple times. Some studies have shown that people get infected by the exact same strain of virus as short as 8 to 11 weeks after infection the first time. Others may have immunity lasting a year or two. We have no idea how long if any natural immunity lasts after infection.

    Natural herd immunity is the worst idea I've ever heard of as a deliberate strategy.

  13. Song of love metal official

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Don t vaccine people it s very dangerous vaccines kill and make people autist

    Dr klenner Dr Glidden Dr Andrew saul life regenerator Dr schulze have answers

  14. Chakkravarthi Raghavan

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    So much misinformation about and against herd immunity in this video. Obviously linked to promoting a vaccine.

  15. Xp Lee

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Beautiful smile, but awkwardly happy about the subject. Herd immunity is not a proper strategic response without a vaccine.

  16. darnell pistachio

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Response to title: no its not. Thats how it works. Ignoring that fact because the government told you to, is what is "still a bad idea."

  17. Dona Marie

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Thank you for this clear report.

  18. vharse1

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    6:49 it's not possible to stop everyone from getting it, nor is desirable..

  19. Onion Potato

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    A lot of people are still stuck in the magical thinking phase. If they just stay under the blankets long enough, the monster will go away. This monster isn't going away.

  20. f mrm

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Yeah! Herd immunity is a bad idea for great Laboratories. Lol!

  21. Dayon Panyalai

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Long story short "survival of the fittest"

  22. bobcougar77

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Weird she starts with the conclusion that herd immunity is too costly but makes no attempt to weigh the risks. Like… Lets say we can't develop an effective vaccine for 3, 4 or 10 years. Is that risky or am I just being troublesom

  23. Xy Whyxy

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Excellent

  24. John D. Dodson

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Herd immunity isn't free-for-alll. You isolate the vulnerable! Mortality for people under thirty is 1 in a million! Over 50% at that age have NO symptoms! You can get to 60% immunity pretty damned fast that way. You isolate the vulnerable, release the strong. Your dire numbers are considering a "free for all," rather than SELECTIVE quarantine. Sweden has already done it. It's not hypothetical.

  25. arrgelegipcio

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Here Mexico just behind Brazil in the herd inmunity thing.

  26. AJ Thompson

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Plus, this herd immunity concept is banking on the assumption that someone can not retract COVID-19 a second time-which is still not known and the assumption that it won't mutate again. This is a lot of assumptions you have to blindly accept.

  27. LHK HEE

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Those countries that are in lockdown will corona end by 100%

  28. B. Ruth Deerfield

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    The person infected with Hepatitis B develops HBsAg, HBeAg, IgM anti-HBc, IgG anti-HBc , anti-HBe . The person isn’t immune until they develop anti-HBe and IgM and IgG anti-HBc antibodies. They are still infectious before that and can be carriers if the anti-HBe antibody never develops. So we need to know much more about the RNA and DNA antibody sequences of developing antibodies to the Coronavirus before we can tell which antibodies mean the person is immune.

  29. B. Ruth Deerfield

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    There are at least 5 different antibodies to Hepatitis B so having antibodies to the Coronavirus doesn’t necessarily mean immunity. There can be antibodies to various antigens that are associated with the virus, it also depends on whether the antibiotic dies are IgM antibodies or IgG antibodies so a lot more needs to be known about the antibodies made by the body when infected with the Coronavirus. All we can tell for sure is the antibodies mean that the patient was exposed to the virus but tells us nothing about whether they are immune: similar to the HBsAg antibody, the HBeAg, HBCIgM Ab, HBCIgG Ab, anti- HBs and the anti-HBe. It is the combination of some of these antibodies that determine whether the patient is actively infected, a carrier of Hepatitis B or actually immune to Hepatitis B so just having Hepatitis B antibodies without knowing anything about the disease process gives us no idea whether the patient is immune. Hepatitis surface Antigens HBsAg and HBeAg indicate carrier states rather than immunity and IgM antibodies indicate early infection so a lot more needs to be known about the sequence of these antigens and antibodies and whether passive immunity can even be transferred from one individual to another or giving these antibodies could actually infect the person who receives an injection of these antibodies developed by an infected host.

  30. Xyce Bedet

    May 25, 2020 at 8:03 am

    I typed "herd immunity," and this was the first result, an opinion piece against herd immunity.

    Why?

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